00:05:09 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Hello everyone! The forum will begin soon. Thank you for being here. 00:05:59 Courtney Lewis (MAPC): We will get started with things momentarily. 00:07:52 Steven Levy: Steven Levy, Sagamore Road 00:09:17 Emma Battaglia, MAPC (she/her): We will start at 7:05 to give people a few more minutes to join 00:09:43 Cheryl Brill: Cheryl Brill, Ramsay Road 00:10:42 Tom Londer: Tom Londer Rowland Street 👋 00:11:07 DIRK ISBRANDTSEN: Kurt James Norman Street 00:11:07 Angela Ellis: Angela Ellis, Green St 00:11:16 Katharine Tracy: Kate Tracy, Taft St. 00:11:29 Cathy Doughman: Cathy Doughman Turner Road 00:11:36 Laurie Barham: Laurie Barham, West Shore 00:11:39 Nancy Davidge: Nancy Davidge, Green Street 00:11:42 DIRK ISBRANDTSEN: Dirk Isbrandtsen, Fair Housing Committee 00:11:51 Bob Neuss: Bob Neuss, Reed Street 00:11:57 Nancy Davidge: Nancy Davidge, Green Street 00:12:17 Laurie Barham: Laurie Barham, West Shore 00:12:39 Debby Larkin: Debby Larkin, Fair Housing Committee 00:12:52 Kathryn Breslin: Has the meeting started? I am not seeing anything other than the title. 00:12:57 Edward Nilsson: Ed Nilsson, Planning Board 00:12:57 Bob Welch: Bob Welch - Taft St 00:13:11 Chris Stevens: Chris Stevens, Marblehead Reporter 00:13:15 Jean Hamburg: And I have no sound 00:13:31 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Jean, there isn’t any audio yet. The forum will start very soon. 00:13:35 Teri McDonough: Teri Allen McDonough, Fair Housing/Roosevelt Ave 00:13:51 Tom Quigley: Tom Quigley, Evans Road 00:14:12 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Hi Jean, can you hear now? 00:14:26 Jean Hamburg: Yes. Thanks 00:14:31 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Great! 00:14:40 Lisa Garry-Seymour: Lisa Garry-Seymour, Jersey St. 00:15:15 Kevin Rockett: Kevin Rockett, Taft Street. 00:15:17 Kathryn Breslin: Kathy Breslin, Brackett Pl. 00:15:25 James Bixby: Pastor James Bixby, Clifton Lutheran Church, Marblehead Racial Justice Team 00:16:50 Kevin Collins: Kevin Collins, Turner Rd 00:16:57 Erin Noonan: Erin Noonan Board of Selectmen, own 00:22:38 Martha Potvin: Martha Potvin, Green Street 00:23:13 Julie Kiernan: What constitutes immediate neighborhood? 00:23:39 Olivera GRKOVICH: Good evening It’s OLIVERA . I have been living in Marblehead from July of 2017 00:25:06 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Please use the Q+A feature if you have any questions. We will answer some questions in real-time and hold other questions that require further explanation until the Q+A portion of the meeting at the end. 00:25:46 Nancy DeMuth: Nancy DeMuth, Tedesco st 00:26:27 Olivera GRKOVICH: Do you except an application for applying to buy one of this condo or apartment after this School is fixed? 00:28:03 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Hi Olivera, that could happen if the site is developed. But this is a planning level discussion at this point. 00:29:12 Elisabeth Horowitz: What is deed restrictive affordable housing? 00:29:13 Olivera GRKOVICH: Yes , I know . In that case my email is ogrkovich@gmail.com. I would appreciate if I can be informed when the time comes for an application. Thank you. 00:34:14 Betsy Gay: Last entrance was to the library 00:34:24 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Please leave your questions in the Q+A so we can keep track of them. Thank you! 00:42:08 Debby Larkin: What was her question? 00:43:30 kirsten pricher: housing and a community garden 00:43:39 Erin Noonan: Housing 00:43:43 Cathy Michael: smaller, starter homes for those who can’t afford a home in Marblehead 00:43:45 DONALD MORGAN: Archive site 00:43:46 Alessandra Donovan: new library, meeting space, and green space 00:43:46 Laurie Barham: Housing! Low income, senior, disabled 00:43:50 Bonnie Grenier: Affordable Housing 00:43:50 Olivera GRKOVICH: Definitely Affordable Housing! It’s because it’s very expensive to buy any house or townhouse in Marblehead . 00:43:53 Tom Quigley: Green space and community garden 00:43:53 Maria: Green space or park 00:43:55 Lisa Kelly: Green space for the community 00:43:57 Martha Potvin: Green space, new library 00:44:00 Danee Deninger: Greenspace! we need more of this in town. 00:44:01 Kathryn Breslin: It would have been a great site for a new library. For housing it would be great for affordable housing. 00:44:12 Cheryl Brill: Save the school for use when universal Pre-K is a fact - the town will need a place for the children. 00:44:16 Leanne Rauhala: public park 00:44:17 Kevin Santman: community garden 00:44:18 Martha Potvin: Green space, new library 00:44:22 John Whipple: Affordable housing. 00:44:22 Bob Neuss: Affordable housing 00:44:23 Steven Levy: Knock down the buildings. New small town houses. 00:44:23 Lisa Garry-Seymour: Green space, recreational space 00:44:23 Susan Morrison: Use of the school for the Abbott Library during their renovations for 1 year. Then using the school and site for low income housing. 00:44:24 Kevin Collins: Open space 00:44:26 Angela Ellis: Combo of affordable housing and some community use e.g. for educational purposes (community education center or environmental center with outdoor space) and/or for arts use (studios for budding artists) 00:44:26 Moses Grader: affordable housing 00:44:26 Chrissy and Brian O'Neill: Open space, there is not much left in town, combined with repurposing the Coffin building into town officers and/or library 00:44:29 K Heithaus: Ice Rink for hockey and ice skating 00:44:31 Katharine Tracy: New library, skating rink, pre-k options 00:44:31 stacylee kruuse: green space for the community with affordable housing 00:44:32 Cheryl Tompkins: Greenspace 00:44:36 DIRK ISBRANDTSEN: Town house, 2-3 family homes. Style consistent with existing residential dwellings. 00:44:38 Judy Gates: Use existing building for affordable housing for low income people 00:44:38 DIRK ISBRANDTSEN: Mixed housing - with open spaces - kind of a village 00:44:39 Nancy DeMuth: Affordable housing that might be inviting to a diverse population 00:44:39 Alison Ford: It would be best to maintain the neighborhood character with small cottage style homes, duplexes and low height multi-family. Affordable. 00:44:41 Debby Larkin: Affordable housing 00:44:41 Nancy Powell: Affordable housing 00:44:41 Terri Tauro: Affordable housing for families 00:44:44 Lise Danforth: Small homes on small lots 00:44:45 Nancy Davidge: Deed restricted affordable housing/. Cottage style with green space. Would prefer to see town own the property. 00:44:46 D Belf-Becker: affordable housing 00:44:47 Gordon Lothrop: Low income housing. 00:44:49 Jack keough: Keep the site as a school to meet the demand for the pre-k schooling needs 00:44:49 Steven Levy: Small park 00:44:51 stacylee kruuse: there is not a ton of outdoor space in old town, it would be great to have more of that 00:44:54 Pamela Kelley: Neighborhood park. Preferably dog-friendly. 00:44:55 Louis Meyi: Affordable deed-restricted housing, mainly or wholly managed for residents meeting HUD low or moderate income guidelines 00:44:59 Jean Hamburg: Affordable Housing, housing for disabilities 00:45:02 Katie Farrell: I would like to see low income, net zero, accessble housing 00:45:03 Danee Deninger: how bout mentioning greenspace! 00:45:08 Kevin Rockett: I don’t want to see another low income site with a number brick buildings. We already have three within short walking distance. 00:45:09 William keaney: Some low income deeded restricted affordable housing in a mixed housing development. 00:45:10 Cathy Doughman: Green space, preserved for future use for the school dept 00:45:11 Joanna Trasher: Starter homes for those who can’t afford housing in Marblehead 00:45:12 Jay Contis: Ball fields 00:45:13 Alison Ford: Keeping the playground would be great. 00:45:14 James Bixby: A housing solution for those excluded from the Marblehead housing market, including People of Color, marble headers aging in Marblehead and low income headers 00:45:20 Annette Stammnitz: nature preserve 00:45:23 Jim Zisson: no matter what happens some space should be reserved to green space - community gardens for exAMPLE 00:45:23 Leanne Rauhala: lots of votes for parks here 00:45:26 Betsy Gay: Senior cottage homes 00:45:28 Angela Ellis: Also space for new startup businesses? 00:45:29 Steven Levy: Town employee housing. 00:45:32 Danee Deninger: playground 00:45:37 Julie Kiernan: I would like to see it as a new libary with a learning center for 18-25 students and the community. A robust place with outside and inside rentable space. A coffee shop and great community center more geared toward building community around the library and learning. 00:45:43 Jean Hamburg: Climate friendly housing 00:45:46 Danee Deninger: universal pre k 00:45:47 Louise Antoniolli: Library and Park and Rec to all COA more space at their current location 00:45:51 Steven Levy: Affordable housing options for seniors, 1-3 bedroom rentals for families and workers in town with green space that fits into the surrounding neighborhood. 00:45:52 Terri Tauro: The town should retain ownership 00:45:56 Susan Gessner: What about overloading the neighborhood since there is a big affordable development just down the road. 00:45:57 Nancy Davidge: Neighborhood is very dense - small yards as part of affordable housing 00:46:08 Danee Deninger: continuing special education 00:46:10 Bob Welch: I’d like to see residential development that fits into the fabric of the neighborhood architecturally and family-wise. Keep the main building and knock down the addition. Keeping an open space /sports field would be preferred too. 00:46:14 Tom Londer: Housing Authority Seniors & Disabilities Renovate Coffin and build another Bldg + a library and park space for the community 00:46:22 K Heithaus: Ice rink 00:46:23 Cathy Doughman: Adult education needs a better space as well 00:46:26 Debby Larkin: Housing that includes decent, safe, sanitary living for affordable housing candidates. 00:46:31 Danee Deninger: YES TO SMALL YARDS 00:46:34 Nancy Davidge: Could be rentals or combination rent/owner occupied with deed restriction. 00:46:48 Olivera GRKOVICH: It would perfect for low income housing because it’s in the residential area . 00:47:11 Susan Gessner: Evelyth site better place for housing. 00:47:21 Danee Deninger: the library will be using this space during renovation 00:47:31 Danee Deninger: mixed use space 00:47:39 Jack keough: YMCA type of facility 00:47:47 Danee Deninger: community garden 00:48:06 Angela Ellis: Model green and sustainable building 00:48:08 Judy Gates: Library ALREADY has permission to use it until Abbot library renovation is completed. 00:48:17 Teri McDonough: Deed restricted affordable, accessible housing 00:48:17 K Heithaus: Community center and athletic facilities and ice skating rink 00:48:22 Nancy DeMuth: affordable housing with gardens/green space - done in a sustainable way 00:48:45 Martha Potvin: Can the building be repurposed or will new buildings be guaranteed ? 00:48:55 Laurie Barham: Anything but a freaking rink 00:49:14 Steven Levy: senior and child day care. 00:49:18 Cathy Michael: Smaller homes and starter homes for those who cant afford the usual marblehead price 00:49:31 Martha Potvin: Thank you, Emma 00:50:00 Debby Larkin: A reuse will make the project eligible for historic tax credits! 00:50:15 Nancy Davidge: Would be wonderful to reuse the building; preferable to putting the building materials into a landfill. 00:50:21 Danee Deninger: so many other things the town needs! 00:50:21 Gordon Lothrop: If the result is any type of public housing, will it be managed by the Marblehead Housing Authority (MHA)? 00:50:25 Jack keough: Hopefully will not be a not in my back yard scenario 00:50:43 Debby Larkin: Public housing is not an option 00:51:05 Olivera GRKOVICH: We have a lot of recreational parks but we don’t have enough affordable housing for low income. 00:51:36 Louise Antoniolli: The library’s current site is plagued with water problems and minimal parking. The Coffin school is an ideal location - with wonderful parking availability 00:53:04 Louise Antoniolli: Just the original building\ 00:53:16 Tom Quigley: Are we waiting for a new poll? 00:53:29 K Heithaus: Are you publishing the poll? 00:53:31 Jack keough: Keep original building 00:53:48 Susan Gessner: You 00:54:20 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): K Heithaus the poll results will be shared following the meeting 00:57:18 Nancy Davidge: Re: Open space. Whatever is built, I’d like to see a significant portion left as green space, which could be small yards for homes. Want to avoid packing buildings in as was done on Green Street at corner West Shore Drive and in the condos at Peach Highlands. Both are far too dense. 01:00:20 Nancy Davidge: Feel strongly that this should be ‘forever’ affordable housing. 01:01:00 Gordon Lothrop: What, exactly does "affordable housing" mean in Marblehead. 01:02:32 Danee Deninger: I think that was retorical 01:03:43 Nancy Davidge: Thanks for clarifying affordable. My preference is for people considered low income. 01:03:44 Olivera GRKOVICH: Affordable Housing 01:03:58 Debby Larkin: “Afforable” generally means that a household will not pay more than 30% of their income for housing expenses 01:04:02 Laurie Barham: Me too 01:04:05 Terri Tauro: Agreed 01:04:13 Jack keough: The options are not up again 01:04:18 Terri Tauro: Agreed 01:04:23 Jack keough: Can you please repost 01:04:25 James Bixby: Here too 01:04:29 Olivera GRKOVICH: Could you please put a last question again? 01:04:36 Steven Levy: Are you reposting the poll? 01:04:39 Laurie Barham: Might low in me be added? 01:04:55 Steven Levy: No can’t see it. 01:04:57 Cheryl Brill: So - Are you definitely set on building housing? 01:04:57 Olivera GRKOVICH: That’s right 01:05:24 Erica Gregory: Need to o to the more option to get back tor he poll 01:05:29 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Cheryl, yes housing is a part of the consideration for the site per the recommendations of the Marblehead HPP. 01:06:11 Cheryl Brill: Is there serious consideration being given to other options? 01:06:54 Maria: No blasting 01:07:04 Allen Schiller: Preserving the character of the neighborhood 01:07:08 Judy Gates: Affordable housing 01:07:16 Martha Potvin: More open space 01:07:16 Kathryn Breslin: If housing is created, please do not make it dense. 01:07:21 stacylee kruuse: So, affordable housing does not sound like it is affordable. Might we look at low income housing options for this site? 01:07:37 Jack keough: Ensure any housing is consistent with the neighboring homes 01:07:39 Steven Levy: Marblehead is a nice place to live. We should give low income households a chance to enjoy living here. 01:07:46 Bonnie Grenier: The town is in desperate need of affordable housing especially as prices of single family houses are skyrocketing. 01:07:46 Olivera GRKOVICH: I would like to have my own place. Please consider for Affordable Housing units or single low income housing . 01:07:47 DONALD MORGAN: I belive it is premature to plan this site for affordable housing before we are certain that the Town doesn't need the space for town uses - like the new archive or Pre-K 01:07:48 Tom Quigley: Green space and fitting into the look and feel of the neighborhood. 01:07:48 Danee Deninger: would seriously want more greenspace 01:07:55 Jack keough: Preserve all current open space 01:07:58 John Whipple: The Town needs more affordable housing. 01:07:59 DIRK ISBRANDTSEN: Mixed types of housing with a goodly amount of affordable/low-income and all of it net zero energy design. 01:08:12 Angela Ellis: Affordable housing is obviously a need but it would be great to have some community educational use for the site - and/or arts.. 01:08:15 Susan Morrison: Housing that would enable BIPOC people to live in Marblehead 01:08:19 K Heithaus: Minimize impact to the neighborhood traffic and density 01:08:28 Nancy DeMuth: My priority is to offer more affordable housing of all types that might encourage more people of color to live in Marblehead and offer more options for seniors to stay in town. 01:08:34 Katie Farrell: Sustainability and net zero design is important. I am concerned about environmental justice. It should be be mostly ADA compliant. ADA does not include housing at this time. 01:08:48 Chrissy and Brian O'Neill: There are roughly 15 houses, maybe 40 people living on Turner Rd where Coffin is; and the surrounding streets are all quiet/residential as they have always been. When will a traffic study be shared? It seems like the decision here has already been made behind the scenes 01:08:54 Kevin Collins: Improving, not diminishing, the character of the neighborhood 01:09:01 Louis Meyi: Some folks advocated for eveleth site to be considered for affordable housing. See Town Website “Community” tab on Home page with report on where to site the Hockey Rink. There are millions in the bank to use for a hockey rink. To keep other municipal owned sites in the mix for affordable housing, important to leave Eveleth site for hockey rink. 01:09:03 Steven Levy: Affordable housing is the main priority, but it needs to fit into the neighborhood with good design, landscaping and be seen as an asset. 01:09:04 Tom Londer: Housing Authority might be the best option. Teams of managers and Maintenance already in place. Easier to bring in State and Federal $$. Subsidy from State is a great thing. 01:09:09 Jay Contis: Maintaining space for youth sports, downsizing housing options and traffic management 01:09:10 Terri Tauro: The town should not sell off property. The space should be utilized for public housing or repurposed for public use 01:09:10 John Whipple: There is already tons of open space in Town, including nearby playground & lots of conservation land. 01:09:19 William keaney: Housing for lower income and middle income families is priority. We need to build a more economically integrated community. 01:09:20 Kevin Rockett: Housing is obviously necessary but there are a number of other sites that should be considered before Coffin. There are already affordable housing complex’s within short walking distance. 01:09:20 Debby Larkin: Affordable housing is considered a “public purpose” 01:09:20 Kevin Santman: the town is going to do, what the town wants to do 01:09:23 Laurie Barham: I’d like to fill in gaps in housing, especially senior housing and housing for people who who have disabilities. Perhaps some of the units can be rental. I’d like it to be inviting to the community in a way that breaks down barriers, perhaps with public gardens with individual plots and plots for charity. 01:09:32 Olivera GRKOVICH: How many units will be built? 01:09:32 Lisa Kelly: Preserving the existing building in a way that does not harm the environment and adding more green space. 01:09:50 Bob Welch: This should be a quality development that fits into the fabric of the neighborhood. 01:09:56 Danee Deninger: are we going to sell all the town property for housing thus losing any space for things the town needs in the future 01:10:07 Alison Ford: If the building is going to be retained, please give it some updated architectural character. It is very drab as is and reminds me of tenement/public housing, like the nearby subsidized senior housing. I would prefer it to be demolished. 01:10:09 James Bixby: The Marblehead select people commissioned a long range plan that identified a deep issue to our towns thriving in the future, a low diversity, rapidly aging, gentrifying community with a workforce that has to travel and cannot afore to live in town. If this building isn’t used to address this identified issue, we will have missed an opportunity big time. 01:10:12 Erica Gregory: Maintain integrity of the neighborhood in terms of population and volume of traffic and congestion. Quiet area now with single family homes. It would be best to keep the same type of housing, architecture and density as surrounding neighborhoods. 01:10:14 Danee Deninger: not true about the traffic 01:10:14 DONALD MORGAN: I'm surprised Story & Gerry are considered good examples of affordable housing successes... 01:10:23 Nancy Powell: It’s important to avoid having too many structures too close together. People need green space and shade. Plant trees 01:10:24 Debby Larkin: Affordable housing for qualifying candidates of including ethnic minorities and disabled individuals. A bit of public area is good, also. 01:10:29 Debby Larkin: There are no funds in the state to support additional “public housing” 01:10:35 Teri McDonough: Provide opportunities for seniors to continue to afford to age in their own community. Provide housing opportunities to those folks that teach our children, care for our aging parents in local nursing homes, serve us in our retail stores & restaurants, police our town, etc. 01:10:48 Nancy Davidge: Priority is a combination of low income housing in the form of small houses and cottages with small yards. Rental or deed restricted. Do not want to see townhouses or densely packed multi unit buildings. A small park/playground would be nice. Would prefer site continue to be owned by the Town of Marblehead; second choice would be a nonprofit housing organization. This neighborhood already has two very dense multi unit, townhouse communities. We do not need another one. 01:11:07 Gordon Lothrop: Chrissy & Brian, I am inclined to agree with your comment, "the decision ahs already been made. 01:11:32 Alessandra Donovan: agreed that Mhd does not have affordable housing but instead of housing why not look at improving the quality of life of the existing population 01:11:45 stacylee kruuse: I think that housing there with green space would allow for the integrity of the neighborhood. I live close by, drive by everyday for the past six years getting my kids to school and the traffic is fine and will be fine if there is housing there. 01:11:45 Gordon Lothrop: Tom, I agree with your MHA point 01:11:49 Nancy Davidge: Sustainable housing - solar, high efficiency buildings, etc. 01:12:02 Cheryl Brill: I agree with the comment that the decision has already been made 01:12:26 Danee Deninger: more residents means more services are needed. will any children that live there be able to access bussing to the new school? 01:12:35 Olivera GRKOVICH: There can be a community garden after the affordable low income housing is provided for people who can’t afford to pay rent and food. 01:13:06 stacylee kruuse: Honestly, as long as the site development supports the community, it will benefit everyone. 01:13:20 Danee Deninger: I agree as well about the decision being already made 01:13:47 John Whipple: Bussing to the new school would doubtless be on the same terms as for kids in existing homes. 01:13:50 Kevin Rockett: Agree the decision has been made also MHA does not maintain the properties well. They outsource most of the work and they are in terrible condition. 01:14:01 Cathy Doughman: I'm in agreement that Marblehead needs more affordable housing, but am concerned about this location. why are all the sites being developed for this purpose in the same area? There is no longer an elementary school in this neighborhood, it's far from transportation and seems like we are trying to keep low income families in a "neighborhood". Is Eveleth being looked at as well? It's near a school, close to buses, etc. 01:14:09 Terri Tauro: The decisions are always already been made. Who decided it was for housing? 01:14:11 Laurie Barham: Will the property be sold to the highest bidder no matter what we say! 01:15:11 Laurie Barham: That was meant as a question 01:15:21 Cathy Michael: If the building is saved it must be redesigned and updated so it is attractive and no longer looks like tenement housing - which it does. 01:15:30 Danee Deninger: yes! Cathy why is everything being developed in one area. 01:15:32 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Please add questions to the Q+A so we can keep track of them. Thank you 01:17:00 Alessandra Donovan: there are neighboring towns with more land better suited for development. We live in a thickly settled area and to keep adding homes and people seems shortsighted 01:17:04 Cheryl Brill: I think a lot of us do not want any housing - we want a mixed use specifically for community services - open space etc. 01:17:24 Erica Gregory: No wind power please!! 🙏 01:17:57 Nancy Davidge: Lower income means people currently living/working in town who do not have a big income. They may work for the town, a nonprofit, or for a small business. Houses can be well designed to fit with the neighborhood - which means having space/yard for each home, consistent with other homes in Marblehead. 01:18:07 Gordon Lothrop: Can the town impose conditions on the property? 01:18:07 Danee Deninger: I agree with open space and community services! 01:18:17 Alessandra Donovan: but the town cannot tax town owned open spaces so maybe that is why... 01:18:25 stacylee kruuse: As someone who lives two blocks away, I would rather see housing then mixed use area. As long as there is community green space, I would love that. 01:18:31 Jack keough: I agree that is seams like housing has been selected. And this is the first public forum to discuss the matter. 01:18:43 Lisa Kelly: My main concern is that the redevelopment of this site will actually harm the neighborhood as well as the town. 01:19:02 Bob Neuss: Getting the most amount of quality/useful space based on costs which are very high currently 01:19:07 Katie Farrell: Affordable housing is solely needed in Marblehead. But increased traffic is a concern which can be mitigated. I hope. 01:19:09 Erin Noonan: No concerns, we have a housing crisis 01:19:09 Tom Londer: I'm concerned that there are no housing options for Seniors in MBH. None. Time for a commitment to this population. 01:19:21 Kevin Collins: There is a sense that there is a low cost housing corridor that runs along Green Street . Hopefully what happens at this site won't contribute to a exacerbating that. 01:19:29 stacylee kruuse: also, for schooling, not sure where the bus picks up for kids now. so, maybe the town needs to expand their busing if they expand housing 01:19:50 Nancy Davidge: As a close neighbor, we already have mixed use in this neighborhood. Tioga Way. The Community Store, transfer station, and other businesses. 01:19:58 Chrissy and Brian O'Neill: Density and traffic are a major issue in this location. A grade 2-3 school, with a drop off and pickup daily is far different than the town handing the land over to a developer to jam as many units as possible into a postage stamp to make $ and walk away 01:20:15 Laurie Barham: I am concerned that this will be sold for profit rather and filling in some gaping holes in our housing options. 01:20:17 Danee Deninger: NO Blasting 01:20:36 Cathy Michael: Including community gardens and common space could benefit and bond both the current and new housing in the area 01:20:45 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): This site was identified for housing development as a part of the Marblehead HPP, a 10-month planning process guided by a steering committee. It included two public forums and two focus groups as well as other opportunities to offer input through an online community survey. Tonight’s forum is an opportunity to explore this recommendation further. 01:20:46 Nancy Davidge: There are several examples of too dense housing on Green Street - in the 01:20:47 Katie Farrell: Bus pickup is miles or more from Brown. Coffin is under 2 miles. 01:20:50 James Bixby: My concern is that no matter what stock we release into MHD it always ends up with the same income availability. 01:21:11 Jack keough: The finally finished development in green street is an atrocity and can’t be repeated Housing style does not fit. Plus 8 hrs of delay. Additionally only two are lowering income out of 28 units. 01:21:39 Katharine Tracy: It sounds like this isn’t a recommendation, it sounds like this has been decided given the polling questions. This is the first engagement of the broader community. 01:21:59 Jack keough: Green street. 8yrs of delay. 01:22:01 Danee Deninger: if it's sold for profit it will just make our affordable housing deficit worse 01:22:11 Nancy Davidge: Design is important. There’s a stretch of Green Street that is too dense (just north of the school) that has houses jammed together. Small capes/cottages in the style of the original Turner Road development is more in keeping in the neighborhood. 01:22:29 Laurie Barham: All due respect, but efforts guided by a screening committee in MBHD does not mean the greater public is aware. 01:22:42 Louise Antoniolli: Affordable housing, Section 8 housing, 01:22:42 Kevin Rockett: Thanks Alex. I don’t understand what type of communication was sent about this process or the steering committee but not one person on Taft Street was notified about this, that just doesn’t seem right. 01:22:49 Debby Larkin: If affordable housing is built here, it will be very high quality and not low cost. 01:23:05 Leanne Rauhala: See Mariner site for details. Mountains of rock being blasted daily. Tremendous loss of trees. 84 units going on a similar size site. $$$ 01:23:25 Bob Welch: It’d be nice to build housing that our children can afford and that will allow new generations to stay in town, but this should not be a low quality development. It should be built to last and architecturally fit into the neighborhood. 01:23:36 Louise Antoniolli: Affordable housing, Section 8 housing, Senior housing too concentrated 01:23:36 Alessandra Donovan: this is the first time that i have been made aware that abutters were included. Were there any abutters on the steering committee 01:23:47 Danee Deninger: this neighborhood was originally given to the town for affordable single family homes. 01:24:07 Debby Larkin: That Marblehead will miss the opportunity to increase yhe percentage of Affordable Housing that is attractive and consistent with the beauty of the town in addition to increasing monetary income to the town for increasing the affordable housing %. 01:24:08 Cathy Michael: How will the town prevent these homes from being sold for profit by the developer? Instead of helping those who cant afford top price 01:24:18 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): The HPP was a town-wide process. There were two in-person community forums prior to the pandemic that were available to the broader public in addition to surveys and focus groups. This site was not the focus of that plan so abutters wouldn’t be notified specifically. Meetings were advertised to the entire town. 01:24:32 Lisa Kelly: I really hope this project benefits the whole town. 01:25:00 Jack keough: How do we stay as connected to this process as possible? 01:25:01 Alisha Hill: I do not believe that there was any outreach to the owners of the neighboring streets, to provide input to the planning process. We would like to have an opportunity to provide our input on the use of this space as it directly impacts us. 01:25:06 Danee Deninger: these community forums did not include the abutters 01:25:07 Nancy Davidge: Would like to see town consider working with a nonprofit affordable housing agency - Beverly and Salem have them - who might partner with the town to develop affordable housing options without having the profit motive of a developer. 01:25:21 Martha Potvin: Obviously those of us who live close to the school are concerned about how it will affect our house value. We only hope that whatever is decided is done tastefully. 01:25:25 Teri McDonough: I am concerned that folks do not understand that this is a process of studying just the possibility of affordable housing, not a foregone conclusion of how to utilize this property. 01:26:04 Gordon Lothrop: Do we know which developers are interested in this project? 01:26:09 Debby Larkin: The forums were open to the whole town… 01:26:13 Alessandra Donovan: the conversation is obviously just done to say that abutters were consulted and their concerned listened to while the decision seems like it's already done. 01:26:37 Danee Deninger: no they were not! 01:27:06 Maria: Abutters were not involved 01:27:18 Chris C: Would just green space be considered? That is as much a deficit in town too. 01:27:20 Susan Gessner: Have the School Department released this school to the town? 01:27:38 Nancy Davidge: I’m a close neighbor and the post on Facebook was the only way I learned of this. I was unaware of any previous community forums. The Marblehead Reporter is no longer a serious newspaper and I, along with others do not subscribe. Would appreciate it if MPAC and the town would use mail to let people know about these important community meetings. 01:27:56 Laurie Barham: Who determines what is the best proposal and which criterion guide selection. 01:28:09 Danee Deninger: we all get to vote on this at town meeting as to whether or not to let the school dept. transfer the site. please vote! 01:28:19 Terri Tauro: That is how we roll in Marblehead now🤷‍♀️ 01:28:25 Jack keough: Will there be another forum to full explore the other option for and property other than housing ? 01:28:36 Kevin Santman: like i said, the towns going to do , what the towns going to do. PERIOD! 01:29:30 Danee Deninger: where and when was the public engagement that Jason is talking abour? 01:29:38 Jack keough: Housing production plan. When was the neighbors included in that ? 01:30:40 Danee Deninger: abutters were only notifed this year a few months ago 01:30:46 K Heithaus: Over 90 percent of respondents to the poll identified as home owners. 01:30:50 Maria: Meetings regarding this issue are NOT transparent. What is the process to getting notifications of meetings. Surely u cannot expect people to check website daily to learn about scheduled meetings. 01:30:52 Nancy Davidge: People feel this is a done deal because outreach to Marblehead residents is lacking. Recommend looking at how outreach is done and expanding communications vehicles used. Happy to be part of a conversation. Why can’t you send direct mail and use other outreach. People do not ‘drop in’ to the town website. We need a prompt to know that conversations can happen. 01:30:59 Kevin Rockett: What does immediate abutters mean. I’m on Taft.. pretty close and not notified. 01:31:06 Kevin Collins: Will the RFP that goes out to developers be specific about how to propose their development (keep bldg/leave open space vs all new single fam) or will it encourage different proposals- how will it be structured? 01:31:36 Nancy Davidge: Is sale of property a vote at town meeting? 01:31:52 Nancy Davidge: How were these earlier meetings publicized? 01:32:15 Danee Deninger: no abutters were invited to any of the earlier meetings. 01:32:17 Alessandra Donovan: reviewing the plan? so there is already a plan? 01:32:35 Maria: Why can we not get emails regarding meetings. We get robo calls about everything else 01:32:44 Nancy Davidge: People do not visit town website. Town steering committee invites people they know. Both are geared towards i 01:32:55 Nancy Davidge: Both are geared toward insiders. 01:33:08 Danee Deninger: already a plan! 01:33:43 Cheryl Tompkins: I physically abut the site and was never notified. 01:33:56 Alessandra Donovan: bingo. there are already so many people who live here that cannot even be consulted and we are looking at adding even more people... 01:33:57 Nancy DeMuth: Can you include the link to the HPP again for folks who don’t know about what it is and what it does and does not do? 01:34:32 Chris C: Would just green space be considered? That is as much a deficit in town too. 01:34:52 Debby Larkin: They are referring to the town wide HPP that resulted from the lengthy public process not a plan for the school. 01:35:26 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Marblehead Housing Production Plan | Marblehead MA 01:35:31 Laurie Barham: Folks, it’s already a plan. We are just a box to tick on the check list. Notice how much discussion is happening. They rent interested, 01:35:44 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): https://www.marblehead.org/planning-board/pages/marblehead-housing-production-plan 01:35:51 Gordon Lothrop: where should we direct any specific suggestions & comments about the site? 01:35:57 Nancy DeMuth: I appreciate the work that MPAC and Jason and Becky are doing on this project and the HPP. I do not appreciate the negative attitudes I am seeing here tonight. 01:36:02 Jack keough: Can abutted and the neighborhood be informed of all future meetings.? Via mail 01:36:24 Leanne Rauhala: Look at zoning bylaws. Probably at least 60 units could be developed. 01:36:25 Laurie Barham: Folks they aren’t interested in discussing anything. This is already a plan. They are just ticking a box on the checklist 01:36:45 Gail Michaud: When is the next forum? 01:36:58 Laurie Barham: Has the steering committee been meeting I. Secret for 2 years? 01:37:25 Nancy Davidge: I’m all for developing the site. I’m more concerned about the process related to letting people know about these types of meetings. The message is not getting out widely. 01:37:41 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): The HPP was adopted May 2020. The steering committee is no longer meeting. The HPP doesn’t include recommendations for this site that’s what this process is about. 01:38:06 Laurie Barham: We’re the steering committee meetings public? 01:38:13 Nancy DeMuth: I believe that some of the confusion comes in with the phrase Housing Production Plan, maybe Alex you could speak to what the HPP is and what it is not. 01:38:26 Danee Deninger: can't make this happen unless it is voted to turn over the site at town meeting. 01:38:42 Kevin Collins: Who was the town rep we can contact with questions? 01:39:02 Jack keough: How does one get more involved at this point with the coffin school process? 01:39:27 Terri Tauro: I enjoy the toxic positivity. 01:39:34 Lisa Kelly: Are there any restrictions when it comes to development in Marblehead? 01:39:41 Laurie Barham: We’re the steering committee meetings public? 01:39:48 Becky Curran Cutting: contact rebeccac@marblehead.org 01:39:49 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Laurie, yes 01:40:08 Becky Curran Cutting: 781-631-0000 or 781-631-1529 01:40:59 Chris C: Please, what about NO more developing. The town needs open green space. 01:41:15 Jack keough: Can you notify all that attended this meeting of all future meetings 01:41:19 Danee Deninger: how does the town stack up to other towns of OUR SIZE when it comes to affordable housing. 01:41:23 Laurie Barham: May I suggest you give plenty of notice with multiple notices over multiple channels? We actually want to hear from citizens, right? 01:41:39 Kevin Rockett: I find it funny that people who don’t live near the site or are impacted have so many positive comments and no concerns. 01:41:47 Alessandra Donovan: i am just wondering why we went through the process of answering all these questions, instead of being asked just what type of housing we would like to see there. 01:41:51 Cheryl Tompkins: People utilize the open space there every day. 01:42:12 Jack keough: Repost the question 01:42:22 Danee Deninger: because citizens want to tell you what they actually want. not answering well crafted questions 01:42:23 Alex Koppelman, MAPC (he/him): Thank you everyone. Have a nice night! 01:42:25 Debby Larkin: Great job!